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1-more 2 days ago [-]
One term in high school I put a laptop bag strap on a hanging file box and used that as a bag for a semester. It made me nuts that teachers hand you stuff you need to hold on to that has no holes in it, but you're supposed to store it in a 3 ring binder. Everything you are supposed to bring with you to class is the shape of a rectangle, but a backpack is a blob that lets your stuff fall to the bottom. Best grades I ever got. Ended up hurting my back so I went back to a backpack. I got a lot of "why don't you just…" questions for a day or two and then it was chill.
This bag shape seems far superior for the purposes of carrying paper hither and thither than any other bag shape I've seen.
EvanAnderson 2 days ago [-]
Rectangular prism-based storage FTW.
I carried a briefcase for my last three years of high school (in the early 90s in rural Ohio). After the jokes subsided it became "just a thing" and, wow, was it nice. I ended up being able to get by w/o using a locker (beyond stowing my coat in the cooler months). Being able to lock it was a treat, too.
I assume it would never fly today because "security".
1-more 1 days ago [-]
I was at boarding school and we didn't have lockers, so you needed everything for all your classes in your bag because the dorms were a hike (and you can't go back during the day until 10th grade).
MisterTea 2 days ago [-]
> It made me nuts that teachers hand you stuff you need to hold on to that has no holes in it, but you're supposed to store it in a 3 ring binder.
That is why pocket folders exist.
natebc 2 days ago [-]
Right? The classic Trapper Keeper!
1-more 1 days ago [-]
Trapper Keepers are binders. Did they also make folders? Regardless, asked and answered yeronner: not big enough for a whole term. Things fall out if you turn your bag upside down or put the folder in upside down
MisterTea 16 hours ago [-]
They did make folders that were branded I believe. The Trapper keeper also featured pockets on the front and rear covers.
> Things fall out if you turn your bag upside down or put the folder in upside down
Rare problem from memory. The folder is usually easy to orient as it would have a pattern or picture. Same if it was in your binder. In addition, the pressure of the folder being in your binder or between books usually clamped the pages in place. There were also vertical and semi vertical pocket folders that prevented an upside down incident from spilling the folder contents.
1-more 1 days ago [-]
they never have enough space for a whole term
jerlam 2 days ago [-]
I was super cool for a week when other students saw I had a three-hole punch that fit into a three ring binder.
1-more 1 days ago [-]
This was recommended. Those things always suck. Also the paper tears with use in the binders. Not into it. Also the handouts come stapled automatically by the copier. In a hanging file I could leave them stapled.
jerlam 1 days ago [-]
3-ring binders, in general, were terrible. It was very common to pick up a binder and have the papers fall out because the ring mechanism was broken and didn't close correctly. I don't think any of mine ever lasted a single school year.
1-more 1 days ago [-]
ugh, the WORST! The name says what they're for: publishing a single copy of a book. They aren't meant to get crushed in a backpack and opened hundreds of times, but we have yet to admit that we are failing the youth with this garbage technology. This randoseru at least seems like it would do a better job of not putting pressure on the outsides of the rings and making them stop meshing.
When my son gets to school age I'm going to work this problem with him. file folders, plastic accordions, whatever he wants to work with really. The true secret of success is typing your notes up later, but we'll deal with that when we deal with that.
gorpy7 2 days ago [-]
this was written with at least the help of ai- it’s still a good article and idk if i’m the only one who can tell or we’re beyond the point of needing or wanting or caring to point it out. idk
ottobonn 2 days ago [-]
I was trying to ignore the classic tells of LLM writing, but I still find them irksome when reading an otherwise informative article. There is just too much fluff in the language
MichaelZuo 2 days ago [-]
Yeah it’s seriously shady to not disclose it at the beginning of the piece.
1970-01-01 2 days ago [-]
It's also an ad. Also dk if I’m the only one who can tell or we’re beyond the point of needing or wanting or caring to point it out.
King-Aaron 2 days ago [-]
> The thinking was straightforward: if every child wears essentially the same bag, you can’t read household wealth
These bags are like $400-800 lol
bombcar 2 days ago [-]
I'd love to see a Saddleback Leather take on these.
rustyhancock 2 days ago [-]
Yes I'd happily buy one if it's quality matched the price and I'm sure in Japan it often does.
I have done some simple leather crafts, and I think the design clearly is suitable for building with rivets and full grain leather, if they do use that today then it'll be a spectacular product.
rendaw 23 hours ago [-]
There are plenty on amazon japan for < 10000 yen (~$60?)
j2kun 2 days ago [-]
It drags on a bit and is rather verbose, which is what made me notice it was AI-assisted.
mc3301 2 days ago [-]
My favorite part is a bland photo every two sentences.
For me the iconic school bag will always be the JanSport.
munificent 2 days ago [-]
I bought a black JanSport backpack from my university bookstore in, I think, 1998. It was the first version that had a laptop slot in it because laptop computers were still a rarity then. I got it because my job at an dotcom startup bought me a bright orange iBook. Still one of my favorite laptops.
That JanSport lasted me 20 years. It outlasted that dotcom started, the entire dotcom bubble, the Great Recession, and three jobs. It took on dozens of flights and road trips. On long hikes in the Smokey mountains, and sleepovers at several girlfriends' apartments. It was an absolute tank.
What finally gave out was the rubberized coating on the bottom started to get gummy. But, wow, did I get my money's worth with it.
LL Bean for me. Original at first, then the deluxe later as I got more homework. And I used an accordion folder, one slot for each class, for holding handouts etc. in addition to the notebooks and binders.
MisterTea 2 days ago [-]
I was an Eastpak kid. To me, the quality was the same with the added bonus that you were less likely to get robbed for it.
iv4122 2 days ago [-]
I second this - mine has lasted me 15+ years at this point. Which is not something you can say about a lot of the things on the market today.
eb0la 2 days ago [-]
Before reading the article I was surprised to find them similar to old german Sout backpacks.
They are really sturdy and durable: your kid needs just one of them for all primary school (grundschule).
They are explensive (not so much considering 3-6 years of continuous abuse by kids), but when the kid gets tired of it, some people put them on sale.
I have one that I know was resold at least 2 times and it still in perfect shape...
Great for airport travel, btw.
nicbou 20 hours ago [-]
Is this a typo? I cannot find them, but these days Google is unusable.
qsera 2 days ago [-]
That is nothing. This is what my friends used to carry to school in the early 90s
Interesting read. The title made me think of Catholic School Book Bags that everyone in my city who went to Catholic Schools used. Public school kids (me) just carried the books to school, rain, snow or shine. No school busses back then.
I could not find a picture, but there were like small army duffel bags, dark green with a yellow fabric strap. You held the strap and slung the bag over your shoulder.
kmoser 2 days ago [-]
> The government has taken the issue seriously enough to study it and to encourage lighter materials, reduced textbook carry, and the use of digital teaching tools. Some manufacturers have responded with more synthetics and lighter reinforcements.
I guess they're so married to the traditional design that they just refuse to add a frame and waist strap to offload the weight to your hips.
worik 2 days ago [-]
I want one.
Gorgeous
maxall4 2 days ago [-]
Only an LLM could liken a first-grader to a scholar: "In a stratified society where the imperial family sat at the symbolic center, that gesture mattered. The randoseru moved, almost overnight, from battlefield to classroom, from soldier’s kit to scholar’s gear." This is an interesting topic, but this kind of AI writing gets very, very grating. Additionally, though this is somewhat unrelated, I feel like LLMs tend to argue points through gaslighting, rather than actual argumentation; they prefer to stack a bunch of tangential, or parallel, evidence and then assert that it proves their point when, in reality, it does not have any logical coherence—unless, perhaps, one reads it at 2am, in which case it might make sense.
Funnily enough before opening the article, having heard of the japanese backpacks, I was wondering if it was going to talk about bulletproof ones or japanese ones.
reconvene1290 2 days ago [-]
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ideaforge_00 6 days ago [-]
Every generation accidently recreates the same object with newer materials and better marketing. This is basically the modern equivalent of a satchel, except now it comes with aerospace fabric, limited drops, and a Discord server.
AlotOfReading 2 days ago [-]
LLM comment? The link is about randoseru, which are not satchels and predate the existence of both discord and powered flight.
peddling-brink 2 days ago [-]
Definitely LLM, see their other comments. Should be banned.
brudgers 4 days ago [-]
Every generation thinks it invented sex.
--Robert Heinlein
This bag shape seems far superior for the purposes of carrying paper hither and thither than any other bag shape I've seen.
I carried a briefcase for my last three years of high school (in the early 90s in rural Ohio). After the jokes subsided it became "just a thing" and, wow, was it nice. I ended up being able to get by w/o using a locker (beyond stowing my coat in the cooler months). Being able to lock it was a treat, too.
I assume it would never fly today because "security".
That is why pocket folders exist.
> Things fall out if you turn your bag upside down or put the folder in upside down
Rare problem from memory. The folder is usually easy to orient as it would have a pattern or picture. Same if it was in your binder. In addition, the pressure of the folder being in your binder or between books usually clamped the pages in place. There were also vertical and semi vertical pocket folders that prevented an upside down incident from spilling the folder contents.
When my son gets to school age I'm going to work this problem with him. file folders, plastic accordions, whatever he wants to work with really. The true secret of success is typing your notes up later, but we'll deal with that when we deal with that.
These bags are like $400-800 lol
I have done some simple leather crafts, and I think the design clearly is suitable for building with rivets and full grain leather, if they do use that today then it'll be a spectacular product.
It's pretty disrespectful imo -- it feels like the reader's time is worth less than the author's.
Article SmeLLMs
I loved the making-of video: https://youtu.be/lSochjb6ovI
That JanSport lasted me 20 years. It outlasted that dotcom started, the entire dotcom bubble, the Great Recession, and three jobs. It took on dozens of flights and road trips. On long hikes in the Smokey mountains, and sleepovers at several girlfriends' apartments. It was an absolute tank.
What finally gave out was the rubberized coating on the bottom started to get gummy. But, wow, did I get my money's worth with it.
https://5.imimg.com/data5/SELLER/Default/2024/9/451658081/PU...
I could not find a picture, but there were like small army duffel bags, dark green with a yellow fabric strap. You held the strap and slung the bag over your shoulder.
I guess they're so married to the traditional design that they just refuse to add a frame and waist strap to offload the weight to your hips.
Gorgeous
Even the packaging of the final product is beautiful!
Funnily enough before opening the article, having heard of the japanese backpacks, I was wondering if it was going to talk about bulletproof ones or japanese ones.